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Postby lil john » Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:14 pm

alright all
not been on here much been having some issues with net etc

well ive been thinking of wanting to train diffrently and thinking for size. but i know nothing about training for size and the principles. and wonder if anyone got any good basic workouts or nasic info aswell. i still would like to keep compund moves, but i struggle atm with trying to get strong just cos of the back, so wanna take it bit easier and concentrate on enjoying myself lifting weights and gettin some muscle back and try and get plenty of core in and see if can get back sorted. as always.

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Re: training for size

Postby Cookie » Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:42 pm

Bill Starr`s 5x5
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Re: training for size

Postby samurai69 » Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:51 pm

yeh 5x5 is a good way to build size and strength
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Re: training for size

Postby lil john » Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:38 pm

will do a google on that then cookie, cheers
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Re: training for size

Postby lil john » Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:49 pm

i thought the lower rep range, ie 5 didn do much for size? or is it magazine stuff ive prob read somewhere?

seen a few workouts of his, like them alot tbh
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Re: training for size

Postby tomato » Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:16 pm

from stuff i have read, size/hypertrophy is higher volumes 8-12 repetitions

shorter rest times 60 seconds, although this causes fatigue, and less reps

but on contradiction and to confuse things :shock: having longer rest keeps fatigue down a maintains a high volume of reps ,

im not a big lad though so don't listen to me :grin:
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Re: training for size

Postby samurai69 » Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:42 am

tomato wrote:from stuff i have read, size/hypertrophy is higher volumes 8-12 repetitions

shorter rest times 60 seconds, although this causes fatigue, and less reps

but on contradiction and to confuse things :shock: having longer rest keeps fatigue down a maintains a high volume of reps ,

im not a big lad though so don't listen to me :grin:



the general teachings are 8 to 12 reps for hypertrophy with rest about 1 to 1.30 minutes with base of 3 sets per exercise with 3 exercises per body part................however the 5x5 produces a godd strength to size ratio and is (in recent years) the preffered system amongst the majority of stronger bodybuildery types


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Re: training for size

Postby tomato » Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:39 pm

what training would you have to do to sway the strength size ratio more to the way of size?
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Re: training for size

Postby Cookie » Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:01 pm

tomato wrote:what training would you have to do to sway the strength size ratio more to the way of size?


S69 covered the basic/general ideas that are normally followed but if you were say looking at size in relation to body-building then it can go along many paths from super high volume to 1-2 sets which involved a lot of drop sets, forced reps to tear down the muscle fibres.
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Re: training for size

Postby samurai69 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:12 pm

Cookie wrote:
tomato wrote:what training would you have to do to sway the strength size ratio more to the way of size?


S69 covered the basic/general ideas that are normally followed but if you were say looking at size in relation to body-building then it can go along many paths from super high volume to 1-2 sets which involved a lot of drop sets, forced reps to tear down the muscle fibres.



those and pyramids up and / or down with sets etc


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Re: training for size

Postby Scott » Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:35 pm

diet would be a huge factor.
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Re: training for size

Postby samurai69 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:57 pm

Scott wrote:diet would be a huge factor.



yeh definately

like i said to my nephew, if you want to be 16+ stone you need to eat like a 16+ stoner (clean)...........or at least build up to it


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