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Protein - More Is Not Always Better?

Postby TH&S » Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:55 pm

Protein- More Is Not Always Better
Written by Robbie Durand
Thursday, 18 December 2008

To examine the effect of how different dosages of egg protein powder affected protein synthesis rates; researchers had young healthy men who had previous resistance training experience perform intense resistance exercise and consume a egg protein drink that contained either 5, 10, 20, or 40 grams of egg protein.
Groundbreaking Research! 20 grams of Egg Protein Maximally Stimulates Protein Synthesis Rates





To examine the effect of how different dosages of egg protein powder affected protein synthesis rates; researchers had young healthy men who had previous resistance training experience perform intense resistance exercise and consume a egg protein drink that contained either 5, 10, 20, or 40 grams of egg protein. Interestingly, they found that increasing protein intake stimulated protein synthesis in a dose dependent manner up to 20 g of dietary protein, after which there was no further increase in protein synthesis (40 grams did not stimulate protein synthesis greater than 20 grams). This data suggest that there is a maximal rate at which dietary Amino Acids can be incorporated into muscle tissue and that with increasingly higher concentrations of Amino Acids, there is no further stimulation of muscle protein synthesis. So how many times in a day could someone consume such a dose (20 grams) to stimulate muscle anabolism that would ultimately translate into muscle growth? The researchers speculated that 5-6 times daily of small 20 grams of protein would be the optimal measure to increase anabolism and increase muscle mass. One thing that should be addresssed is that they used egg protein which many bodybuilders do not use anymore; whether this applies to whey protein is not known.



Moore DR, Robinson MJ, Fry JL, Tang JE, Glover EI, Wilkinson SB, Prior T,Tarnopolsky MA, Phillips SM. Ingested protein dose response of muscle and albumin protein synthesis after resistance exercise in young men. Am J Clin Nutr.

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Postby Cookie » Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:56 pm

Studies like that ALWAYS cause chaos on forums :lol:
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Postby Takmaster » Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:37 pm

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Postby Cookie » Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:37 am

And how many on the forums have slated the old skool approach of not consuming more than 30grms of protein per sitting ;-)

Taking drugs obviously has a totally different effect on protein uptake
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Postby TH&S » Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:19 pm

ONE SMART COOKIE wrote:And how many on the forums have slated the old skool approach of not consuming more than 30grms of protein per sitting ;-)

Taking drugs obviously has a totally different effect on protein uptake


Siff writes that everyones intake is different, but no one should need more than 400g per day.

If you enjoy protein (i.e. a nice juicy steak) thats one thing - but pointless having 300g of powder per day IMHO.
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Postby tomato » Sun Dec 28, 2008 6:15 pm

are there people who seriously eat 400g of protein!
your body cant use it all so its just a waste of good food!
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Postby Cookie » Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:27 pm

tomato wrote:are there people who seriously eat 400g of protein!
your body cant use it all so its just a waste of good food!


I have know guys shoot for 500gms :shock:
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Postby tomato » Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:19 pm

thats a hell of a lot of protein! they must be kickin out some mean protein farts aswll :???: lol

are those guys training for a specific competition
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Postby Cookie » Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:26 pm

tomato wrote:thats a hell of a lot of protein! they must be kickin out some mean protein farts aswll :???: lol

are those guys training for a specific competition


You would probably find that it is/was bodybuilders or stength athletes looking at consuming huge amounts of protein & more than likely they would be chemically assisted.
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Postby tomato » Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:29 pm

so would that much protein be utilised in somebody who is chemically assisted?

how much more can they use compared to those who arent assisted?

and how many calories would they be consuming in total?

sorry, lots of question there, i know. just curious
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Postby TH&S » Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:24 pm

ONE SMART COOKIE wrote:
tomato wrote:thats a hell of a lot of protein! they must be kickin out some mean protein farts aswll :???: lol

are those guys training for a specific competition


You would probably find that it is/was bodybuilders or stength athletes looking at consuming huge amounts of protein & more than likely they would be chemically assisted.


The big test and slin users love "the protein" - Dante (of DC fame) claims to consume upto 600g protein ED.

It will just get used for glucose in those large amounts.
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Postby Cookie » Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:09 pm

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