Pre workout supplements

[Cookie]

Interesting.

Good find

Seems on the Yank ebay that all the ingredients for that supplement can be found individually.

It was only a matter of time.

[Melas Zomos]

White powder in the mail Yeah I can explain that real easy.
I wonder how it compares?

[Cookie]

White powder in the mail Yeah I can explain that real easy.

That`s what I thought, English customs would not be too happy to see something like that coming through

I wonder how it compares?

Get some & let us know

My main concern would be purity & making sure your dosing correctly because I would like to take too much of a substance like that

[Melas Zomos]

White powder in the mail Yeah I can explain that real easy.

That`s what I thought, English customs would not be too happy to see something like that coming through

I am sure it would be okay, just address it to the gym

I wonder how it compares?

Get some & let us know

My main concern would be purity & making sure your dosing correctly because I would like to take too much of a substance like that

Your right on the money, and I too would look exactly like that smilie!
Besides I am done with that stuff for the time being. I need to recover from my last adventures with that stuff and the oxy elite. I suspect it did more harm than good in the whole time line of things as I am still paying the price. I still have some left, but am saving that for emergency use only.

The powdered caffeine, at one time, I would have jumped on. I like that idea. However, I am getting good results from some loose tea blends now.

Besides, I have a few other things (a little more natural) that I am giving a go. Hopefully they will fufill my expectations.

[Cookie]

Your right on the money, and I too would look exactly like that smilie!

I`ve had moments like that when sampling too many varieties of coffee

Besides I am done with that stuff for the time being. I need to recover from my last adventures with that stuff and the oxy elite. I suspect it did more harm than good in the whole time line of things as I am still paying the price.

Seriously?

Not realised it had had such a negative impact on you.

Wow that sucks..

The powdered caffeine, at one time, I would have jumped on. I like that idea.

There was a recent case of a guy dying from OD`ing on the powdered caffeine because he read the instructions wrong.

However, I am getting good results from some loose tea blends now.

Pray tell, they might go well with my yerba mate?

Besides, I have a few other things (a little more natural) that I am giving a go. Hopefully they will fufill my expectations.

Keep us informed because I MAY need something myself as I approach a certain age

[samurai69]

Keep us informed because I MAY need something myself as I approach a certain age

45 is that or even older than you would have everyone believe and its 50


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[Cookie]

45 is that or even older than you would have everyone believe and its 50

Haven`t you missed a 1 from the beginning of that 50 for your age

[Melas Zomos]

I`ve had moments like that when sampling too many varieties of coffee

You should have seen me that first week on oxy-elite

Besides I am done with that stuff for the time being. I need to recover from my last adventures with that stuff and the oxy elite. I suspect it did more harm than good in the whole time line of things as I am still paying the price.

Seriously?
Not realised it had had such a negative impact on you.
Wow that sucks..

Yes it truly does suck, but it is the only thing I can come up with.
The time line is exact. It is really causing me to re-think my position on some supplements. I just can't figure out why it did what it did. It was almost like flicking a light switch, but now the fuse is half blown .
The positive is, it really opened my eyes to just how the body works and what a cascading effect happens when something within is not running optimally.

The powdered caffeine, at one time, I would have jumped on. I like that idea.

There was a recent case of a guy dying from OD`ing on the powdered caffeine because he read the instructions wrong.

That sucks, but looking at that pile of powdered caffeine makes think of Scarface, which makes me wonder...What would be more dangerous/powerful a line of blow(cut) or a line of powdered caffeine(uncut)?
Can powdered caffeine be snorted? I assume so, but never tried?

However, I am getting good results from some loose tea blends now.

Pray tell, they might go well with my yerba mate?

Yes they would. It certainly can help with the taste. I will start a new thread

Besides, I have a few other things (a little more natural) that I am giving a go. Hopefully they will fufill my expectations.

Keep us informed because I MAY need something myself

No worries, will definitely share my findings either way. Not going to

as I approach a certain age

This smells too much like a trap, really do not want to touch it at all.
I really do not think of age at all. Hell, just this morning the old lady wished me a happy birthday and I did not even know it was today
Of course she also had to remind me just how old I really am
Good think my maturity is still back at grade school level, I figure it balances it out.
Don't sweat it bro, you have a few more years till you have to sweat it

[Cookie]

You should have seen me that first week on oxy-elite

That strong?

Yes it truly does suck, but it is the only thing I can come up with.
The time line is exact. It is really causing me to re-think my position on some supplements. I just can't figure out why it did what it did. It was almost like flicking a light switch, but now the fuse is half blown .
The positive is, it really opened my eyes to just how the body works and what a cascading effect happens when something within is not running optimally.

With all the positive feedback I had seen a few of these supplements get on various forums I think going by your experiences I`ll give that stuff a miss even if I did manage to get some free samples.

We`ve discussed this before but supplement companies these days are treading a VERY fine line between natural & pharmaceutical & they have a duty of care to their customers. Something I suspect that they`ll claim to do but in reality its the bottom line that just counts. There is a definite sense of egotistical behaviour with companies to have the strongest supplement out there & this clouds their judgement in my honest opinion. Kids now are coming into the field of natural supplements which are on par, if not stronger in some instances, than the pharmaceutical equivalents of 20 years ago.

This cannot be good for their long term health or their outlook on a healthy lifestyle.

Yes they would. It certainly can help with the taste. I will start a new thread

Yeah start a thread up, just found a site for loose tea which I`ll be looking through soon.

This smells too much like a trap, really do not want to touch it at all.
I really do not think of age at all. Hell, just this morning the old lady wished me a happy birthday and I did not even know it was today
Of course she also had to remind me just how old I really am
Good think my maturity is still back at grade school level, I figure it balances it out.
Don't sweat it bro, you have a few more years till you have to sweat it

Trap me never

Belated happy birthday. I never forget my birthday, I like to get presents

Grade school! I`m still acting like its nursery school

[Melas Zomos]

That strong?

For me it was. It certainly did what it was advertised for. I do not think it would be much use to you as you are all skin and bones with your running kick
If you needed to lose some pounds then maybe if you were dead set on using something, but you really need a precise plan in place when coming off.
It really affected my body temperature something fierce.

With all the positive feedback I had seen a few of these supplements get on various forums I think going by your experiences I`ll give that stuff a miss even if I did manage to get some free samples.

The Super Cissus Rx was good and I would possibly try that again. The Jackd I liked, but would recommend that only for the occasional jump. The others I would pass on. I may just be an isolated case, which I probably am. I have a theory I am working on. Will share shortly if it pans out.

We`ve discussed this before but supplement companies these days are treading a VERY fine line between natural & pharmaceutical & they have a duty of care to their customers. Something I suspect that they`ll claim to do but in reality its the bottom line that just counts. There is a definite sense of egotistical behaviour with companies to have the strongest supplement out there & this clouds their judgement in my honest opinion. Kids now are coming into the field of natural supplements which are on par, if not stronger in some instances, than the pharmaceutical equivalents of 20 years ago.This cannot be good for their long term health or their outlook on a healthy lifestyle.

Yes they are borderline legal imo. I would rather see someone do clen that oxy. With that they would at least be more educated and conservative in their use and approach.
Yes, kids are going to be in for a rude awakening once they pass into their middle years.

The one thing I notice is the cult like following of some of these companies. On some fronts it is almost fanatical and near brainwashing the way they work. These kids are so desperate to belong to something I do not know if if I find it amusing or just plain pathetic.

Yeah start a thread up, just found a site for loose tea which I`ll be looking through soon.

Will do. Loose tea is the way brother!

Grade school! I`m still acting like its nursery school

Will you ever stop one upping me? or one downing in this case

[Cookie]

The Super Cissus Rx was good and I would possibly try that again. The Jackd I liked, but would recommend that only for the occasional jump. The others I would pass on. I may just be an isolated case, which I probably am. I have a theory I am working on. Will share shortly if it pans out.

I found the Cissus seemed to give diminishing returns the longer it was used. Started off good but just never finished the job.

Jack3d is looking like a last resort type of product for me to be honest, its just too CNS heavy & it hangs around in the body for far too long.

Yes they are borderline legal imo. I would rather see someone do clen that oxy. With that they would at least be more educated and conservative in their use and approach.
Yes, kids are going to be in for a rude awakening once they pass into their middle years.

I have to agree with you on the use of Clen & most being a lot more educated on its use. Education on these new products is an issue now because the manufacturers throw reams & reams of it at the consumer in their sales pitches & even for me its very hard to take it all in & know where else to look & double check the information given. Not enough testing goes into these products for my liking, a few "beta" testers & then they hit the shelve.

And another thing, the sooner countries make "energy" drinks a 16`s or over drink the better.

The one thing I notice is the cult like following of some of these companies. On some fronts it is almost fanatical and near brainwashing the way they work. These kids are so desperate to belong to something I do not know if if I find it amusing or just plain pathetic.

This goes back to the beta testing & "journals" springing up all over the forums. It feeds an unhealthy "I want some of that" mentality & does all the marketing for the companies for the price of a couple of bottles/tubs per journal. Very sneaky.

I think the internet as a whole now has created a need to "belong" with the younger generations because of its instant gratification when they get replies within seconds of posting something.

The internet seems to make everyone a star & everyone wants to be a star/centre of attention.

Will you ever stop one upping me? or one downing in this case

I`ll try

[Scott]

some energy drinks are over 16s here. Cant remember which ones exactly. My daughter got ID'd trying to buy one

I thought the cissus was good when I first started it but tbh by the end of the tub I dont think it made any difference to anything but I was told that the recommended dose I was taking was far too low. I upped it towards the end but I wasnt left wanting to buy any more. I'd like to try it again at a much higher dose for longer but its too pricey.