Pre workout supplements

[Cookie]

some energy drinks are over 16s here. Cant remember which ones exactly. My daughter got ID'd trying to buy one

I`ve witnessed fat kids as young as 11 troffing back 500ml bottles of the stuff quite regularly whilst their parents are there

The size of the cans now with the likes of Relentless & Monster are just not needed. I drank a can of Relentless once out of curiosity & I was bolloxed on it. Started to go into panic mode the caffeine content was that high.

[Scott]

I`ve witnessed fat kids as young as 11 troffing back 500ml bottles of the stuff quite regularly whilst their parents are there

The size of the cans now with the likes of Relentless & Monster are just not needed. I drank a can of Relentless once out of curiosity & I was bolloxed on it. Started to go into panic mode the caffeine content was that high.

I think a lot of parents dont have a clue what these drinks actually are! Ive never had relentless or monster but youre right, the size of them is something else
I remember at Uni I was totally hooked on red bull LOL! maybe not physically hooked but mentally I felt like I couldnt get past 1pm without 2 tins

My daughter got ID'd trying to buy one

for the record... if I had been with her she wouldnt have got it ether

[Cookie]

I think a lot of parents dont have a clue what these drinks actually are! Ive never had relentless or monster but youre right, the size of them is something else
I remember at Uni I was totally hooked on red bull LOL! maybe not physically hooked but mentally I felt like I couldnt get past 1pm without 2 tins

I`m finding most parents to be complete & utter buffoons these days when it comes to feeding their kids half decent meals.

Had 2 red bulls ONCE, never got home so fast on the bike.

My daughter got ID'd trying to buy one

for the record... if I had been with her she wouldnt have got it ether [/quote]

And mine wouldn`t have had it either.

[Melas Zomos]

Had 2 red bulls ONCE, never got home so fast on the bike.

Try bouncing at a bar that had "Red Bull and Vodka" specials every Wed
Did I mention it was a college crowd Ahh the good ole days of putting frat boys through the atm machine

I found the Cissus seemed to give diminishing returns the longer it was used. Started off good but just never finished the job.

Yes, I agree. But it does work, even if a tolerance is developed. You would just have to figure out the timeline of the cycle to run, assuming that the tolerance is not permanent of course. Have not tried it a second time, so I can not say.

Jack3d is looking like a last resort type of product for me to be honest, its just too CNS heavy & it hangs around in the body for far too long.

Yes on all accounts. I am a little bummed on this one as I really liked the stuff, but the negative outway the positives

This goes back to the beta testing & "journals" springing up all over the forums. It feeds an unhealthy "I want some of that" mentality & does all the marketing for the companies for the price of a couple of bottles/tubs per journal. Very sneaky.

Yes, exactly. Very good marketing.

I think the internet as a whole now has created a need to "belong" with the younger generations because of its instant gratification when they get replies within seconds of posting something.

Yup and then it translates into the real life.

The internet seems to make everyone a star & everyone wants to be a star/centre of attention.

Exactly and that is why youtube is thriving.

[samurai69]

holiday in majorca, all holliday i was drinking pints of vodka red bull (50/50) ............ great holiday

when ever i drove back from portugal i used redbull to drive for 16 hour sessions

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[Melas Zomos]

holiday in majorca, all holliday i was drinking pints of vodka red bull (50/50) ............ great holiday

when ever i drove back from portugal i used redbull to drive for 16 hour sessions

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The original red bull when it came out certainly was something After it started catching on, especially in the bars, they had to change their formula slightly to somewhat curtail the aggression

They also marketed a cola, don't know if they still do, that got banned in Germany because of traces of cocaine. Don't know how much of it was just promotional hype or what. The amount was not great, but it was there. They use de-cocainized cocaine. I guess they were trying to duplicate coca colas original formula. A later study on the drink estimated that you needed to drink like 50,000 cans to feel the cocaine effects.

Who knows, maybe you were riding higher than you thought

[Scott]

you needed to drink like 50,000 cans to feel the cocaine effects.

if that was pepsi max I could probably nail the 50,000

[Cookie]

Try bouncing at a bar that had "Red Bull and Vodka" specials every Wed

Used to know a guy who had a heart attack thanks to vodka Red Bulls. Had 11 & his ticker gave in. Thankfully he survived.

if that was pepsi max I could probably nail the 50,000

I used to drink about 5 cans of that stuff a night when I did 12 hour nights

[Scott]

what about pre workout stuff that isnt really a N.O / pump / grrrrrr type supplement?
Ive often felt that something simple like a flapjack 10 mins or so before training has been at the root of some decent sessions.

[Melas Zomos]

what about pre workout stuff that isnt really a N.O / pump / grrrrrr type supplement?
Ive often felt that something simple like a flapjack 10 mins or so before training has been at the root of some decent sessions.

Never tried a flapjack pre-workout, only post workout, but what the heck you never know until you try.
This is one of those things that is going to be different for everyone. Of course this is not what the supplement companies want to hear. But every persons workout and body type is different and one might need something for a quick start, another for prolonged, and another just to keep the stomach settled. I used to use a small amount of oatmeal and choc whey pre with good success.

[Cookie]

Taurine

[Melas Zomos]

Taurine

Have you tried it outside of red bull, solo?